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Gebirgjagers Use of Mules?

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Dubar1

Company Commander
Patrick, one more question.

I have a Power Team Mule I want to use with my Gebirgs. I've been trying to find a decent picture, drawing, etc of a pack saddle to put on it, but have come up empty except for one picture that is too blurry to make out any detail. What would it be called so I can Google it??? How similar was it to the American pack saddle?
 
I would also like to know about the Pak Mule I have three of the Power Team Mules and would love to make them into a German mule team.
 
Grüß Gott Tragtierführers,

First off, Gebirgsjägers call them Muli (moo-LEE).

Second, there are two things you need to know about a Muli...one, the head is where the hay goes in and two, the tail is where the hay comes out!!! :lol:

Now you are offical Tragtierführers! Drei mal Horrido!

I'll see what I can dig up for you on the packsaddles...there are several different types. I won't tell you that I have 4 packsaddles in my collection with a 5th one on the way!!! Just need to convince the wife to let me buy a real Muli.... :-P

Here is a woodcarving that I did of a Muli with Willi und Sepp...they didn't learn the most important two things about the Muli...
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As to the POWER TEAM'S "so-called" mule....I think it's size and looks are more like a donkey. A mule is about the same size as a horse. Here is a funny photograph I picked up recently:

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Muli vor!
 
I found some very good pics in the new Schiffer book I got on German Mountaintroops. As soon as I get a chance I'll scan them and post them here. There are also a few pics of them using horses to haul artillery on thier backs! A really nice shot of a horse drawn sled with an artillery piece one top.
 
I wonder if the equipment would be the same for German and US pack mules? Ie Tools and equipment to maintain the animal and packs.

I found a old army manual for US Army pack animals that has some good info in it.

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Grüß Gott Muliführer Vehicle,

The US and German packsaddles are different. I'm not sure about the US tools, though I would think that they would be somewhat similar. Here are some photos of the Hufbeschlagmeister (Farrier) tools and some pack items that I have in my collection:

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I have several German packsaddles in my collection, but I am in the process of obtaining the more common version that was used by the Gebirgsjäger. Hopefully, I will have it early in the New Year.

Muli vorwärts und Horrido!
 
Heeresbergführer, thanks for the pics!, that is one thing i just didnt think of and that is first aid equipment.

Those pics will help alot.

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Servus Bergkameraden,

There are many different items that were packed on the packsaddles from Medical Supplies, hot food containers, heavy weapons and artillery, etc. A standard mountain division usually had about 4,000 - 6,000 pack animals in it.

Here are the ammo boxes for the Gebirgsgeschütz 36 75mm mountain howitzer...now if I could find the howitzer to go with them!!!!

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Muli vor!
 
Nice pics! Here are three pics of mules two show the wicker baskes they used and one shows a mule pulling a raft thru the water.

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