Hermann Goering Para-Panzer Pzkw 2 in Italy?

Charlie Foxtrot · 02-06-2014, 04:53 AM

I was reading strength reports from the HG Panzer for 1944, 1July.
Type. ---------- Authorized. ----- Available.
Assault gun. ------- 31. ---------- 0
Pz II ----------------- 3. ----------- 2
PZ IV---------------- 98. ----------- 12
PZ V.------------------3. ---------- 0
Pz 38t.---------------12. ---------- ?
AC&APC.-------------341.---------- 118
SP/AT---------------- 28. ----------0

Officers.-------------- 655.-------------495
NCOs.--------------- 5126------------3285
Men.---------------- 15368----------13148
Aux volunteers. ------- 972------------140

Total. -------------- 22157---------- 17045

So, what model Pz II would these have been, and where were they assigned? Recon? HQ Security?
And Pz 38t? In 1944?
This also shows that a paper division was much less powerful than one might think.

magpie · 04-26-2014, 10:23 PM

Seeing as nobody has offered any answer, i'll offer my educated guess....

I would say they were issued to the panzer reconnaissance platoon attached to the headquarters company of the panzer regiment, probably to be used until newer models such as the Lynx were issued.

The reconnaissance platoons attached to headquarters companies of the panzer and infantry regiments respectively should not be mistaken for the dedicated reconnaissance battalion (Aufklarungs Abteilung).

thetrainman41 · 04-26-2014, 10:52 PM

hello,
nice work my friend!!!

I heard some people just found Hermann Goering's personnel Horch two door car in a farm in west Virginia..
Nice car he had...
thanks

Charlie Foxtrot · 04-02-2015, 05:38 AM

Just a side note, follow up... from reading diaries etc...
Pzkw II in Italy were not Luchs model, which went to East and later West front.
Pzkw II usually worked in pairs, usually with a platoon of medium tanks.

02-06-2014, 04:53 AM	#1
Charlie Foxtrot Machine Gunner Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: central Oklahoma USA Posts: 186	Hermann Goering Para-Panzer Pzkw 2 in Italy? I was reading strength reports from the HG Panzer for 1944, 1July. Type. ---------- Authorized. ----- Available. Assault gun. ------- 31. ---------- 0 Pz II ----------------- 3. ----------- 2 PZ IV---------------- 98. ----------- 12 PZ V.------------------3. ---------- 0 Pz 38t.---------------12. ---------- ? AC&APC.-------------341.---------- 118 SP/AT---------------- 28. ----------0 Officers.-------------- 655.-------------495 NCOs.--------------- 5126------------3285 Men.---------------- 15368----------13148 Aux volunteers. ------- 972------------140 Total. -------------- 22157---------- 17045 So, what model Pz II would these have been, and where were they assigned? Recon? HQ Security? And Pz 38t? In 1944? This also shows that a paper division was much less powerful than one might think. Last edited by Charlie Foxtrot; 02-06-2014 at 05:03 AM. Reason: alignment

04-26-2014, 10:23 PM	#2
magpie Sniper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Stockton-on-Tees,UK Posts: 100	Re: Hermann Goering Para-Panzer Pzkw 2 in Italy? Seeing as nobody has offered any answer, i'll offer my educated guess.... I would say they were issued to the panzer reconnaissance platoon attached to the headquarters company of the panzer regiment, probably to be used until newer models such as the Lynx were issued. The reconnaissance platoons attached to headquarters companies of the panzer and infantry regiments respectively should not be mistaken for the dedicated reconnaissance battalion (Aufklarungs Abteilung). __________________ This is a story you'll tell your grandchildren, and mightily bored they'll be!

04-26-2014, 10:52 PM	#3
thetrainman41 Sniper Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: manitoba, canada Posts: 141	Re: Hermann Goering Para-Panzer Pzkw 2 in Italy? hello, nice work my friend!!! I heard some people just found Hermann Goering's personnel Horch two door car in a farm in west Virginia.. Nice car he had... thanks __________________ Meine armee durfen betragen klein, aber es hat feuerkraft.. quotes they I live my life by: People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks.. Everything you can imagine is real -Pablo Picasso Be the change you want to see in the world -Mahatma Gandhi

04-02-2015, 05:38 AM	#4
Charlie Foxtrot Machine Gunner Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: central Oklahoma USA Posts: 186	Re: Hermann Goering Para-Panzer Pzkw 2 in Italy? Just a side note, follow up... from reading diaries etc... Pzkw II in Italy were not Luchs model, which went to East and later West front. Pzkw II usually worked in pairs, usually with a platoon of medium tanks. __________________ Video games, graphic novels and modern films are no substitute for historical research.

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