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Question for the USMC experts

B.C.Ries

Mortarman
I was doing some research regarding the USMC 1941 gear. Specifically the official way to set up a 1941 pack is to have the pack straps integrated with the web suspenders so that the pack, belt and suspenders all work togeather and that it would be difficult to dump the pack quickly.
My question is would it be common or unusual for a Marine to rig up his 1941 pack so that he would be able to remove it without also removing his cartridge belt and suspenders.
Looking at the 1941 system it seems that it would be possible and when I was in the Army we used the ALICE system which allowed a soldier to quickly dump his pack.
 
I was doing some research regarding the USMC 1941 gear. Specifically the official way to set up a 1941 pack is to have the pack straps integrated with the web suspenders so that the pack, belt and suspenders all work togeather and that it would be difficult to dump the pack quickly.
My question is would it be common or unusual for a Marine to rig up his 1941 pack so that he would be able to remove it without also removing his cartridge belt and suspenders.
Looking at the 1941 system it seems that it would be possible and when I was in the Army we used the ALICE system which allowed a soldier to quickly dump his pack.
 
The M1941 Pack System was designed to be able to have several different configurations, depending upon the mission. Short answer is that, in combat, the pack and suspenders would not be rigged as you have described in your question. See http://www.ww2gyrene.org/782GEAR.htm for the long answer... As noted in this article, the M41 pack system was the world's first modern pack system, and it was the forerunner of all succeeding U. S. load carrying systems.
 
The M1941 Pack System was designed to be able to have several different configurations, depending upon the mission. Short answer is that, in combat, the pack and suspenders would not be rigged as you have described in your question. See http://www.ww2gyrene.org/782GEAR.htm for the long answer... As noted in this article, the M41 pack system was the world's first modern pack system, and it was the forerunner of all succeeding U. S. load carrying systems.
 
And, following the incorporation of this pack system and other field gear components at the same time, we refer to all of this field gear as 782 gear because of the form number we had to sign when all of it was issued... Semper Fi, Mac...
 
And, following the incorporation of this pack system and other field gear components at the same time, we refer to all of this field gear as 782 gear because of the form number we had to sign when all of it was issued... Semper Fi, Mac...
 
If a Marine was carrying a marching pack into an area where combat was expected how would he rig his pack if he wanted to be able to drop it without dropping his cartridge belt?
 
If a Marine was carrying a marching pack into an area where combat was expected how would he rig his pack if he wanted to be able to drop it without dropping his cartridge belt?
 
He would be wearing it as the light marching pack, using the haversack straps only. The M41 haversack has integral shoulder straps that do not require the pack to be rigged with the suspenders. It does have a bottom strap that allows the haversack to be attached to cartridge built, but many Marines cut this strap off as the hook was uncomfortable. This pack system was used thru the early part of the Vietnam War http://www.vietnamgear.com/kit.aspx?kit=146 with WWII dated versions issued in the original cotton and finally nylon...
 
He would be wearing it as the light marching pack, using the haversack straps only. The M41 haversack has integral shoulder straps that do not require the pack to be rigged with the suspenders. It does have a bottom strap that allows the haversack to be attached to cartridge built, but many Marines cut this strap off as the hook was uncomfortable. This pack system was used thru the early part of the Vietnam War http://www.vietnamgear.com/kit.aspx?kit=146 with WWII dated versions issued in the original cotton and finally nylon...
 
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