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Stug with mixed mantlet

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Having seen Eduardo's Marder, i started looking through my book covering the 17thss in Normandy. I came across this photo in the book which I hadn't noticed previously. Its a stug with a mixed early/late mantlet. Has anyone ever seen this before? Im thinning they added the front of what appears to be similar to the boars head mantlet to the early type. Perhaps with concrete??? Im not certain but thought I would share as I thought it was rather interesting.

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Re: Stud with mixed mantlet

That is a Stug with a saukopf(pigs head) mantlet. They were used on both Stug IIIs and Stug IVs. They gave better deflection that the squared mantlet
 
Re: Stud with mixed mantlet

Maybe it's the angle of the photo but to me it looks like a cross between the two mantlets.
 
Re: Stud with mixed mantlet

Alfonso:


The picture 'appears' to be a STuG lV G with a 7.5 cm STuK40 cannon. The large square to the right of the cannon was extra concrete protection for the driver.


There are two pics on pages 102 (left top) and 260 (last plate).*
Based on what appears to be double periscopes on the drivers side this was an early version. Full production of the STuG IV began in Jan 44 and the cast Saukoptblende mantlet was introduced a month later.


*Info from:

Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two...revised edition







 
Re: Stud with mixed mantlet

What your looking at Al is the side Armor appears to be part of the box of the early version with the pigs head attached , but its only the side armor for the gun opening , optical illusion .:eek:
 
Re: Stud with mixed mantlet

Ahhh, got it! Afterwards I was looking at the pic again and I was thinking that maybe it wasnt what i was seeing. I had looked at pics on the web of the stug IV, I was tracking that it was a IV, and I started to relaize that it might be the picture. I wasnt 100% sure though.

For a minute there, I thought i had stumbles onto something unique!:lol:
 
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